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What begins as a hopeful discussion about Shroud of the Avatar and its projected March 2018 launch date — we were so much more optimistic about the game three years ago! — turns, after a while, into a discussion of the game’s technical merits, and then broadens out into a discussion about how many MMORPGs feel more like single-player games…albeit with a bunch of people cluttering the map.

The discussion also, at some point, encompasses the then-recent trailer and screenshots that were released to promote Underworld Ascendant. That, too, was a game that we were quite hopeful for back in 2018, and not unlike Shroud of the Avatar, it ended up being something of a profound disappointment.

Full show notes at spamspamspamhumbug.com.