Shroud of the Avatar: Physical Rewards Shipping Update
Normally, we only post Shroud of the Avatar-related news once every couple of weeks, but this recent forum post by Starr Long is worth highlighting all on its own. Portalarium are evidently in the midst of a big push to get outstanding physical rewards — maps, game boxes, but not, notably, books (more on that shortly) — shipped to those backers who have not yet received them.
Thank you everyone for your patience and please once again accept our deepest apologies for the horrible delays in getting the last of the pledge rewards delivered. Tens of thousands of you successfully got your boxes in the first couple of rounds but between the manufacturer incorrectly delivering packages, bugs in the address confirmation code, another former team member having to suddenly depart with back issues, and other problems there are still a few of you who are still owed your boxes. Fortunately this week the entire team got together and sent out all of the remaining boxes (that we had accurate information for)! You should receive your box in the next couple of weeks.
If you have not received your box by August 16 please message support@portalarium.com and we will figure out what the few remaining issues are. Please note that we do not have the bandwidth to reply to all of the customer support messages and that is why we have not sent out notices to those of you who messaged us already. Your notification will be the arrival of your boxes. Also note if you got a notification from “Lemonade Couture” about in incoming package that’s from us (it’s Chris’s wife’s clothing company and we are using her shipping account).
#bandwidth
Let’s just pause for a moment and take note of the fact that they aren’t using their own shipping account here, but rather that of Chris Spears’ wife’s infant and children’s clothing online boutique. To be fair, because it’s an online-only (as far as I can tell) clothing boutique, Lemonade Couture probably — thanks to Umbrae for pointing this out on the UDIC Discord server — gets much better bulk shipping rates than Portalarium does. That said, I can’t help but have the feeling that this arrangement speaks to the very threadbare financial circumstances Portalarium may well be in at present.
At any rate, it was noted above that there’d be more about physical copies of books, specifically Blade of the Avatar. And from a certain point of view, there is:
Unfortunately we do not yet have an update on the physical book reward. We are still trying to work out something with the publisher. As noted in previous posts as soon as we have an update we will provide one.
I’m beginning to suspect that the resolution of the book issue will take one of two forms:
- Nobody gets a physical copy of Blade of the Avatar, except those who bought — separately — the expanded version published by TOR some years ago.
- Portalarium buys a bunch of copies of the TOR-published version of the book, and ships these to backers.
At any rate, Long for his part is asking that further discussion about physical rewards be a) limited to just one thread on the forum, and b) be constructive in nature:
Also please note there are multiple threads on the forums about the box topic which makes it difficult to track where the actual issues are (and technically multi-posting is against community policy). So I’m going to close those other threads and point folks to this thread so we can consolidate feedback. Also note that repeated posting of memes and other unhelpful items will begin to be moderated. We understand everyone’s frustration but fanning the flames helps no one.
Once again we are sorry for the delay but we should have this straightened out soon.
You’ll probably all have noticed, by now, that there’s a third counter in the header now, counting down to 5:00 PM (Mountain Time) on August 16th. If my box hasn’t been delivered by then, I’m pretty sure it won’t ever be (but my hope is that it’s somewhere in the pile of boxes above, at least one stack of which is labeled with a K.
I don’t understand what they mean by “Please note that we do not have the bandwidth to reply to all of the customer support messages and that is why we have not sent out notices to those of you who messaged us already.”
How much bandwidth does it take to respond to emails, exactly? If their current bandwidth 0?
They haven’t had a dedicated CS person in a while.
Well, there you have it folks…Industry Vets at work!
At a minimum, I hope all the people who are missing their boxes FINALLY receive them. It is beyond ridiculous how long this has taken.
As for the signed copies of the books…I have absolutely no faith that this will ever transpire. Portalarium will wait on this until they finally go “tits up” bankrupt and claim they are unable to fulfill the reward. No one is getting signed copies of this book.
“Tens of thousands of you successfully got your boxes in the first couple of rounds…”
An exaggeration. 10,000 boxes were made. Around 7,000 people were due physical rewards.
Also, I agree with Forsaken. Nobody will be getting books, signed or unsigned. Portalarium doesn’t have the money to make the books, pay for packing and shipping, or ability to manage the effort, or bandwidth as they like to say.
RG is such scum for washing his hands of this project.
Honestly, Dave (I’m not even going to try and pronounce that name.) I can’t help but wonder if it’s less washing his hands of it, and more pushed out. Either way, I wouldn’t call the man scum. If anything, I feel the utmost sympathy for someone who’s lived through 40 years of the industry only to see his work definitively crushed.
Lord Shittish does not deserve your or anyone else’s sympathy. He allowed this to happen through his own incompetence and hubris.
Not that I’m surprised, but it turns out Starr was not being honest when he stated the following, “Fortunately this week the entire team got together and sent out all of the remaining boxes (that we had accurate information for)!”
In Chris’s stream today, he disclosed that there are still high level backers that they cannot ship physical goods because he has to ship an additional 800 items to Richard to sign. He mentioned they were stuck on the letter K. He also said they still have about 200 boxes packed up to ship, but 150 of those are people who they’ve ‘been harassing for years to update their address but have not.’ He also hypothesized that some of their customers may have died since backing the game and that could account for some of the non-responses. I’m going from memory as he’s currently still streaming and I can’t go back and verify my memory is correct.
He did hold a raffle and promise the winner that he would ship their box today. He’s also selling the signed boxes that just a few months ago he urged people if they wanted them before he had to destroy them per Richard’s request.
This blatant dishonesty really bothers me. All they have to do is tell the truth.
I hope the fire financial situation they find themselves in keeps them up at night as I don’t believe their conscience does.
And by they, I mean the management.
Ah yes, the truth and Portalarium; the ultimate oxymoron. The amount of double talk and downright dishonesty that comes out of these liars mouth’s is truly unconscionable. The great triumvirate of deceit: Richard Garriott, Starr Long and Chris Spears! It’s almost as if they don’t give a damn about anything and will simply lie to avoid any type of conflict.
The thing that really bothers me now is the lack of transparency as it relates to the SeedInvest and their blatant disregard in filing their mandatory annual report. How is this legal? Have none of he SeedInvest people complained to the SEC about this? I would be absolutely furious if I had made this angel investment and they knowingly failed to file because they knew it would reflect poorly on the economic outlook of the company. Once again, Portalarium avoiding the truth!
Just a correction, they are stuck on backer group K. Also, I verified and what I explained above is pretty accurate with what Chris said. Stream timestamp for the shipping discussion is right around 21:00