I don’t know how many more episodes Matt Barton will be publishing from his lengthy interview with David “Dr. Cat” Shapiro, but this here is the fifth such episode in what has proven to be an engaging and informative series.

Fun details from this episode: the production cost of Ultima IX: Ascension (around $45 million!), DragonSpires (an MMORPG that Dr. Cat created and ran some number of years ago), Furcadia (the MMORPG that he is running currently), Ultima Online, Kesmai, Imagination Network, and a bunch of other stuff.