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“Ultima Online: New Legacy” Has Launched – The Ultima Codex says:
What? Alcohol is not more harmful than Tobacco, your body doesn’t have processes to easily deal with the toxins in tobacco like it does with ethanol.
Way to miss the point, Iceblade.
@Iceblade: Two points I could make.
First, I don’t know how this graph measures physical harm; if they are including impairment-related harm, then I could see how alcohol could come out ahead, especially coupled with the damage it can inflict on e.g. the liver (and other systems of the body, but primarily that one).
Second, Handshakes is right: you did miss what I was getting at. This was…intended as humour, and there is a joke in the graphic.
Unless: perhaps you were being ironic, and we two just missed that? If so, then good job, sir!
No I got the joke…it’s very old though, so it wasn’t that funny.
What I was getting at was that if you take a smoke a day, you have done some damage to your to body over a year. You drink a glass of wine per day for a year than you are actually healthy or at least no worse off than you would be otherwise.
Obviously, they should have defined that physical harm represents an average over the wide population or if each of these was used in consistent excess.
Fair and valid points, both; I’m well aware that moderate alcohol consumption is generally beneficial, rather than damaging or habit forming.
On the other hand, alcoholism is both damaging and very habit forming. Which I think is the subject of this graph.
Where’s Ultima? 🙂
It’s somewhere around +5 on the Y scale, I would assume. Not sure about the X scale…maybe -2?
Ultima = (5,5) -> Addicting (Y) and extremely bad to health (X), thanks to EA. Crack (4,4) is also out-of-scale.
@Iceblade: You are considering alcohol (and tobacco) as if it was “food” (and not an addiciting drug). The problem is when you compulsively drink high doses of alcohol daily. Exaggerating a little bit, I suppose drinking 2 liters of alcohol @40% is much worse than smoking 40 cigarettes per day (both for short and long term). Alcohol has a strong psychoactive effect (you can notice that), but we are lucky our liver can deal with that most of the times.
Also, you may also consider that a drunk person has impaired physical coordination, which may lead to physical harm. After some years, if you survive, your liver will be extremely damaged and will not function correctly. By smoking tobacco, you will fill your lungs with tar and will have high chances of developing cancer.
Another thing you might have seen is someone dying from overdose of alcohol. I’ve never seen anyone die oversmoking tobacco.
No, no, no…Ultima has to be in the negatives on the X axis; it is beneficial, right? Right? Riiiiiiiiight? Though I see we agree that it ranks the same on the Y axis.
Ultima would be good for health in normal conditions. However, if you check out this drug’s leaflet on Google, you will notice that its usage in concoction with other strong drugs called Elizabeth and Abraham (which is highly used nowadays… you can easily buy them willy-nilly in a market) can inflict some severe side-effects that can permanently impair the user.
One such effect is amnesia. After using these drugs for one or two years, I can’t remember (see?), I knew there was something about a valley or something like that that I can barely recall now. I know something is amiss, but I’m sure it exists or existed… here or there… only that I just can’t find it anywhere. Any hints (for where I can find this place or for my cure)?
Thus, consumption of Ultima in these condition can be pretty harmful and addictive.
OBS: Usage of Ultima into the hightly powerful drug (indeed) called Final Fantasy can be even more harmful… beware!!!
Thou hast been warned!!!
^ Made. Of. Win.